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37signals is arrogant, and for good reason. But are they right?

37 Signals, a product development companyTonight Jason Fried from 37signals spoke at the Oriental Theater in east Denver. He discussed everything from client deliverables to the 37signals four-day workweek. In essence, Jason’s talk boiled down to three key points:

  1. Don’t work on hard problems. Break them down and keep things simple.
  2. Avoid distractions (open office environments, meetings, e-mail, etc.) get a site or product out of your head and into production ASAP.
  3. Deliverables are bullshit, clients don’t care, the end product is what matters.

First off, I want to say I have great respect for 37signals and their impact on the industry. Having the chance to talk with Jason about issues such as: stopping IE6 support, disregarding Photoshop in the design process, and scaling with growth, was an absolute treat. Clearly the team at 37signals is one of the most innovative and talented in the industry.

However, I think 37signals dominance in the web products field has distorted their ability to critique the client-based approach. And while I don’t have knowledge to speculate specifically on day to day client interaction, I do have a few things to offer from a developer perspective.

Team chemistry is important.

First, people working from home all the time can be harmful to the group chemistry. Jason and team do a huge amount of work via telecommuting. Relying on campfire, screen sharing, and video chat interactions for the bulk of their communication. They feel this helps minimize distractions and keep people productive.

I’m not sold this is the way to go. I think it’s hard to truly feel connected and dedicated to your team if you don’t spend real time with them. When’s the last time you became really good friends with someone without spending some serious face-to-face time with them? For me it’s never happened, not once. And as great as chatting online is, it’s not the same as being in the same room and hashing things out. You miss the subtle face gestures, the inside jokes, the bantering, and the all around comradery that happens in the workplace. Part of the reason Imulus does great work is because we have dedication to one another. Even on days when I’m completely out of wack mentally I still find myself focused on helping the team. Why? Because I’m relied on to help create the great stuff we build. And I trust those I work with to do the same. As ridiculous as our office gets sometimes in the end we get shit done and we do it for each other and ourselves.

Deliverables have a purpose, it just needs to be refined sometimes.

Second, I don’t buy that all deliverables are bullshit. Just as some companies like to skip Photoshop (37signals) and go straight to coding, and others (Apple) like to make mockups pixel perfect it’s impossible to say that one solution is better than the other. Yet, we can agree that certain processes work better for certain people as well as certain projects.

Let’s talk about the way we work. Imulus’ basic approach is to offer the client a timeline, design brief, wire frame, and mockup of the final interface. Now, it’s important to realize that we haven’t always done it this way. In fact, for some time before I came to Imulus the wireframe process was basically nixed. What was the result? Instead of 5 hours spent reworking things in the wire frame process, 25 hours was spent reworking things in the development process. Look, we aren’t naïve, we recognize that clients change their mind and get new ideas all the time. However, we’ve found that most of this re-thinking takes place in the wire frame stage. And therefore we save hours of coding changes by altering the approach up front. In essence, if you’re building a car and the frame is faulty, why wait until the upholstery’s getting put on the seats to fix it?

Still, we know it’s a strong possibility that some of our deliverables are blown out of proportion. And as most firms do we will continue to collaborate and narrow down our inefficiencies. However, we have found that some deliverables are an extremely important step, and just because some projects or companies don’t require them doesn’t mean they aren’t important.

In conclusion

Clearly 37signals has clout and track record to support the way they work. And regardless of how that alters the Imulus process we love hearing about it. It’s phenomenal that they have so much passion behind what they do. I hope over time we can refine our own process to the point they have. Until then it’s great hearing a second opinion about things.

posted in: concepts, design, development, entrepreneur, interactive agency, project management, rant

This post was published on Friday, August 1, 2008 at 2:11 am

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Erik

August 1, 2008 at 4:39 am

Bruce
Just like the conversation we had the other week, I completely agree with you on the camaraderie in the work place. It’s certainly possible to produce great products with 6 people in 6 different locations but what do you produce other than a quality product and nerdier people? Nothing. No inside jokes as you mentioned. No deeper friendship or work relationship. I think these things are key to a great team.

One question - what, specifically, are you considering a deliverable in this industry? Forgive my ignorance. Does this refer to individual products that are client-specific?

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George

August 1, 2008 at 8:17 am

I thought the presentation was kick-ass and Jason Fried is every bit as personable as he seems, he is a real down-to-Earth person. I’m sure that is not an easy task given his company’s level of success.

On the other hand, I agree with Bruce on that an office environment is extremely important to building the dynamic. Companies like Ideo, Gore Industries and 3M continue to charge big dollars for their innovations and their office is a key reason collaboration is so productive for them.

As it applies to Imulus, I think there is a happy medium which we haven’t yet found. I’m not sure that the 37S way is 100% for us; however I’m FAR more productive at home yet I really enjoy the collaboration in the office.

Going forward, I think I’d take several of his points and apply them to Imulus in the next few weeks.

1. No IM, instead use Campfire. The in-your-face disruptions of IM really kill my flow during the day. Using Campfire will allow office communication while removing the distractions and interruptions.

2. Work at home 1 or 2 days a week. It will force us to communicate clearer and allow us to work on tasks uninterrupted for long stretches.

3. Working only for ‘good’ clients. This has been the case since day one and we are always moving forward on this. I disagree with the premise that “all clients suck” because most of ours really rock and challenge us daily to be a better company.

4. Encourage employee hobbies. I loved this one. Essentially Jason said they provide a stipend to each employee to pursue their interests and hobbies outside of work. This philosophy is also in place for companies like Patagonia and it seems to really work.

Well, I’m beginning to ramble so perhaps I should save the rest for a blog post. Anyhow, I think I have a clearer understanding of 37S and I like them even more after hearing Jason’s presentation.

It was a good time!

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Bruce

August 1, 2008 at 9:45 am

Erik, deliverables are the documents that you promise to give clients throughout the project to keep them up to date. Usually it’s documentation, wire frames, design briefs, progress reports, etc.

George, I agree that a nice medium can be found between working from home, avoiding distraction, and still having a nice in office atmosphere and team comradery. We just need to continue to refine our approach and find that balance.

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Matt Crest

August 7, 2008 at 10:14 am

I wish I would have known about this event (did a specific Denver organization put it together?).

With that said, I pretty much agree with your thoughts Bruce - I really respect 37signals and admire their convictions business model, but don’t necessarily drink all the Kool-Aid.

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George

August 7, 2008 at 7:33 pm

Hello Matt

It was put on by the New Denver Ad Club. Here is their Web site.
http://www.newdenveradclub.com

It was sponsored by CP+B